[TUHS] Help request: uucp, mail on 4.2BSD

Arthur Krewat krewat at kilonet.net
Wed Mar 8 03:45:47 AEST 2017

I ran Taylor UUCP on a small BBS system (3 lines!) I ran from my 
apartment in Deer Park, NY, circa 1991-1994 - USENET node kilowatt

It was on System V R4 by Consensys on a 486-33 and later a 486DX2-66 - 
but some things were badly broken, so much so that things like UUCP 
weren't even usable. I don't remember why. Might have had something to 
do with the devices.

So Taylor it was. I have version 1.04 source code.

Hooked up to Motorola (mcdhup) in Hauppauge for USENET news and email, 
using a Telebit Worldblazer, and then disseminated it to various other 
small USENET nodes.

I had quite an interesting routing setup for the mail system included 
with SVR4 (mailsurr?) that would take the UUCP maps posted in 
comp.mail.maps, run them through pathalias and construct a complete path 
to every node in the map. It was the only way I knew of to deal with 
multiple systems I could connect to that would in turn also connect to 
multiple other USENET nodes. I had no definitive "smart host".

On 3/7/2017 12:17 PM, Clem Cole wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org 
> <mailto:dave at horsfall.org>> wrote:
>     It's been ages since I delved into UUCP; first was the
>     ​ ​
>     "original", then HoneyDanBer.
> ​Actually this is a great question for this list .. how many 
> implementations were created?
> 1.) The original 1978 version that shipped with V7 and 32/V (BSD 4.1 
> and 4.2)
> 2,) PC-UUCP for DOS came next -- I never knew how much was ripped off 
> from the original, because at the time, the Chesson's G protocol was 
> not well specified.   The authors claimed to have reverse engineered 
> it - I will say it worked.
> 3.) Honey-Dan-Ber rewrite - most popular for a long time
> 4.) Taylor UUCP first real clone that I know of that I do think was 
> done with out looking at other's source.  G protocol had been publicly 
> documented by then and the Trailblazer in fact was shipping with the 
> protocol imbedded in it.
> Any others that folks know about and how well were they used?  Did 
> things like Coherent have a UUCP?   Linux and FreeBSD were able to use 
> to Taylor UUCP because it became available by then.    Whitesmith's 
> Idris lacked anything like UUCP IIRC (but was based on V6).   Same 
> with Thoth originally at Waterloo, but by the time they shipped it as 
> the QNX product it was V7 compliant but I do not remember a UUCP being 
> included in it.    Minux lacked a UUCP as I recall, but I'm hazy on 
> that has Andy's crew wrote a lot of the user space.   Coherent was a 
> "full" V7 clone and include things like the dev tools including 
> yacc/lex and was released much, much before the Taylor version came 
> out -- so what do they use for uucp if at all?
> Does anyone remember any other implementations?
> Clem

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