[TUHS] TUHS Digest, Vol 14, Issue 63

Brantley Coile brantleycoile at me.com
Tue Jan 17 09:45:52 AEST 2017

Beware of SCSI folks who think they can design data network protocols.


> On Jan 16, 2017, at 6:41 PM, Tim Bradshaw <tfb at tfeb.org> wrote:
> Less than ten years ago I wrote a big rant at people where I worked about fibre channel: all our machines had two entirely different networks attached to them: one built on ethernet which was at that point all Gb on new machines and 10Gb on some (I don't think that 10Gb switches were really available yet though) & where you could stuff a machine with interfaces for the cost of a good meal, and where everything just talked to everything else ... and one built on fibre channel which might have been 2Gb, where an interface cost as much as a car, and where interoperability involved weeks pissing around with firmware in the cards, and sometimes just buying new ones.  Fibre channel was just laughably worse than ethernet.
> No one listened, of course, because my political skills are akin to those of a goat, and fibre channel is *storage* which is completely different than networking, somehow.
> Perhaps people still use fibre channel.
>> On 16 Jan 2017, at 16:44, Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> wrote:
>> I held up the two cards, disclosed the cost, and said "this ATM card is
>> always going to be expensive but the ethernet card is gonna be $10 in
>> a year or two.  Why?  Volume.  Every computer has ethernet, it's gonna
>> do nothing but get cheaper.  And you're gonna see ethernet over fiber,
>> long haul, you're going to see 100 Mbit, gigabit ethernet, and it's
>> going to be cheap.  ATM is going nowhere."

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