[TUHS] Fwd: Re: X Windows preX10R3 releases

Wesley Parish wes.parish at paradise.net.nz
Thu Oct 18 20:45:06 AEST 2007

I emailed Jim Gettys on ancient X Window System code and this is his reply.  
(I asked him if it was okay to pass this on to the TUHS list, and he said 

He's after someone who knows ClearCase, so if there's anyone on this list 
who's knowledgable, or knows someone else who's knowledgeable, feel free to 
get in touch with him.


Wesley Parish

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Subject: Re: X Windows preX10R3 releases
Date: Wednesday 17 October 2007 01:53
From: Jim Gettys <jg at laptop dot org>
To: Wesley Parish <wes.parish at paradise dot net dot nz>

Yup.  I have bits back to the very beginning of X, and slightly
before.... I have snapshots of our RCS pool back into 1984 or so;
unfortunately, I did not copy the RCS pool itself which would have every

I also have copies of the X Consortium backups; in there are ClearCase
databases which the RCS pool was imported into, and may have the commit
by commit history back to the beginning for many files; but it will take
someone with ClearCase expertise to retrieve things from that.

I've been meaning to do something with these for the last couple years,
but have been too busy with OLPC to follow up.
                                - Jim Gettys

On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 21:19 +1300, Wesley Parish wrote:
> Hi.  I'm a part of TUHS, The (amorphous  ;) Unix Heritage Society, and was
> wondering on the mail list about the X Window System releases prior to
> X11Rx, in relation to a Groklaw article on Yet Another Stupid Lawsuit aimed
> at Red Hat and Novell:
> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20071011205044141
> referencing some basic aspects of X Window architecture.  I was referred to
> google, and the presence of the X10R[3 4] which apparently were the first
> public release.
> I then wondered about the existence of the releases even earlier than
> X10R3, and Paul Jones, formerly of the DEC Systems Research Center, advised
> me to contact you in relation to this.  He also says to say "Hi".
> Thanks for any help you can give on this question.
> Wesley Parish

Jim Gettys
One Laptop Per Child


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