Nice! Thanks Doug. Too bad, though... one gets ever tired of having to log into db's and a simple text db system would be useful. Even sqlite, which I love, requires login to get at information... I'm already logged in, why can't I just ask for my info and have it returned?Will Senn wrote,join seems like part of an aborted (aka never fully realized) attempt at a text based rdb to meAs the original author of join, I can attest that there was no thought of parlaying join into a database system. It was inspired by databases, but liberated from them, much as grep was liberated from an editor. Doug