On 2017, Jan 9, at 11:03 AM, Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:45 AM, <arnold@skeeve.com> wrote:
I remember the Bournegol well; I did some hacking on the BSD shell.
Yep - lots of strange things in source debuggers.

In general, it wasn't too unusual for people from Pascal backgrounds to
do similar things,
When we did Magnolia & Tektronix the ex-Xerox/Alta guys lusted for Cedar/Mesa et al - and quickly discovered the Bournegol idea.

I shook my head/shrugged my shoulders, but it made them happy and they quickly wrote some pretty cool tools, like an ECAD system.

Speaking as an ex-Xerox/Alto guy, there was some flow in the other direction as well. Cedar started with a Tenex CMD JSYS derived command line, like the Alto OS before it, but having received the True Word from V7 at Stanford, I wrote a Cedar shell with standard I/O and redirection and shell scripts. I don’t think I did pipes. It did become the standard command line interface. Then Warren Teitelman added DWIM to it which was highly entertaining at times.