On Sun, 6 Jan 2019, A. P. Garcia wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019, 7:43 PM Jon Steinhart <jon@fourwinds.com wrote
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> I would argue that Linux would not have happened without the internet
>> making it possible for folks around the world to participate. And I think
>> that there's a good chance that the tools would have been created anyway.
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> That's more or less how I look at it. Back in the day there was
> comp.sources.unix for example. In Unix itself, there was /usr/ where tools
> developed by users other than the core developers belonged, and there was
> /usr/ucb/ where they put stuff from Berkeley. The culture surrounding Unix
> has always seemed to encourage outside participation, going back to the
> lenient licensing of Research Unix, and even before that, when it just
> existed at Murray Hill.
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If not for GNU, Unix would still have been cloned. Net/2 happened in
parallel, did it not?
Berkeley actively rewrote most of unix yes. Net/1 was released about the same time GNU was getting started. Net/2 and later 4.4 BSD continued this trend, where 4.4 was finally a complete system. BSD386 only lagged Linux by about a year and had much stronger networking support, but supported fewer obscure devices than linux...
Warner
Ps I know this glosses over a lot, and isn't intended to be pedantic as to who got where first. Only they were about the same time... and I'm especially glossing over the AT&T suits, etc.