On 2/1/22 6:22 PM, Clem Cole wrote:
Dan/Will - I think we need the political way back machine ...  below...

That's a lot of history. Thanks. Always with the money, I thought it was strictly altruism that drove the pioneers :).

Then again, if the idea is running BSD on a Vax, Ultrix 4.5 is even better, and has all the DEC languages and layered products.

Wow. I will dig into this. I like the layered stuff. I thought you had to do RT11/RSTSE/TOPS/etc to have that. I had no idea it was available on a *nix platform.


4. Is Quasijarus0c end of the line for VAX 4.xBSD? Why does tuhs only have Quasijarus0 and 0a, was there something wrong with 0b and 0c?

Well, no. Both OpenBSD and NetBSD ported back to the VAX, but the OpenBSD effort has ended due to lack of hardware and interest. It appears that NetBSD is still being actively developed on the VAX, however, so it's possible to get a "modern" 4.4BSD derived system on that architecture.
Right - either current NetBSD or the Ultrix 4.5 is what I would do.  If NetBSD will run the Ultrix layered products, that would be the system with the most; but I'm not sure if that will work.   Ultrix for instance supports DEC (VMS) FTN - which I know you (Will) have been messing with.   That is the best (most complete) FTN for Vaxen.  I believe there is Ada, PL/1 and maybe even Basic2 and Cobol/RPG [I think most of not all of the VMS languages for the VAX were released on Ultrix but frankly, I don't remember].
Sweet. Off to hunt down Ultrix 4.5 :).

Will