PHP was the BASIC of the late 90s and early 2000s; Javascript was (and is) the BASIC of the subsequent generation.

I mean that, of course, in both good and bad ways, and as someone whose initial experience was BASIC in the ROMs of Apple IIs and C64s.  Bad in that neither one is a well-(or even particularly-intentionally) designed language.  Good in that it's easy to get the results you want with some iteration and very little theory or formal training; a novice can bootstrap/cargo-cult something into being pretty easily.

Adam

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 8:04 AM Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
I saw that a while ago.  I'd love to know more about the dataset behind it as Larry asked,

FWIW: Pascal/Delphi being big did not surprise me as it was what was taught in the colleges in the 70s.   Today they are teaching Python and Java so we see generations of new programmers going into the world with those skills (like my own daughter).   

Larry - I think the way to explain Ada, is that it was very big for a while when DoD, DoC and some of DoE when USG bids required it.  But as fast as it rose, it fell pretty fast from favor.

For me, I'm always amazed at things like Javascript and PHP, but their rise is directly mapped to people creating web sites.   

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 10:34 PM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:
I'd like to know where the data came from.  Ada that big?  Says who?

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 03:41:22PM -0700, David Barto wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og847HVwRSI
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> It???s kind of amazing how long Pascal hangs on to #1.
> And you can watch the ascent of web programming.
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