[TUHS] Were all of you.. Hippies?

Larry McVoy lm at mcvoy.com
Fri Mar 24 11:05:17 AEST 2017


This reminds me of Rodger Faulkner.  Ron and Rodger would have gotten on
very well.

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 01:03:03AM +0000, ron minnich wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 5:28 PM Larry McVoy <lm at mcvoy.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I think Ron is just in Grumpy Old Man mode (he's a friend, we go way back,
> > so I get to say that :)
> >
> > Personally, I sort of get the ls<something> model.  ls is how you list
> > things, <something> is how you say what you want to list.  Is it Unix
> > like?  Hmm, perhaps not.
> >
> 
> like larry said. I'm a grumpy old man. And lspci is not Unix. And neither
> is anything we use nowadays that begins with ls and has more than 2 letters.
> 
> In Unix, resources have names. They are visible in a name space, organized
> into directories. The names can be enumerated by opening and reading a
> directory. Information about them can be determined with stat. Their
> contents can be read by open and read. They can be changed with open and
> write.
> 
> it's a pretty simple and consistent model. And it works just fine with,
> e.g., the the Plan 9 pnp device. From my point of view, if a user needs
> lspci to enumerate PCI resources, it's because the kernel has fallen down
> on the job by failing to support the Unix model.
> 
> I can argue this point all day, but I'll let it go at that :-)
> 
> thanks
> 
> ron
> p.s. It's not you, it's me. "You, sir, are a curmudgeon"  -- Rob Pike, to
> me, on 9fans. As a result of this note, while I was at Los Alamos I was
> assigned curmudgeon at lanl.gov. Made my day.

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