[TUHS] System Economics (was is Linux "officially branded UNIX")

Dan Cross crossd at gmail.com
Wed Mar 15 06:54:32 AEST 2017


On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Clem Cole <clemc at ccc.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Arthur Krewat <krewat at kilonet.net> wrote:
>
>> So what I'm hearing is Linux's timeline, which includes things that were
>> not developed just for Linux, extends further out than SunOS does.
>>
>
> ​Mumble...  the problem of course is the under those rules, SunOS goes
> back to research which goes back to V0....
>

...and Multics, whatever assembler DEC provided for the PDP-7 and so on
back to the discovery of the integers and zero. Pretty soon you find
yourself in the court of the Chola empire....

​...​
>> All I'm saying is comparing Linux's timeline to something like SunOS has
>> to include everything that went into both because they both relied on
>> precursors.
>>
> Except for any possible legal reasons....​why differentiate ?  Looks like
> a Duck, Quacks Like Duck or from a Turing Test....  I'm mostly can not tell
> the difference.
>

Being too like a duck carries its own risks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU

Somehow, I feel that clip is an apt metaphor for the computing world in
general and Linux in particular, but I'm having a hard time articulating
exactly how.

Side note: I'm a bit of a bitch when it comes to Linux - which doesn't mean
>> I don't think Linux is "UNIX" - it just means I think it's the Coherent of
>> today's UNIX ;)
>>
> ​I guess it doesn't matter to me that much.   Some of the changes are
> gratuitous and annoying, which brings out my inner curmudgeon as its make
> its tough to type to sometimes.  But the fact is, UNIX, Linux, Macos are
> pretty much the same thing - much more so than winders.   They are way more
> similar than different and I can be productive with all three. To me its
> like ethnicity in people.  It says a little about some of how you might
> look at something, what some of you shared positions/starting points are,
> but we are way more alike than different and I would rather learn from the
> differences than fight them or try to inflict my wishes.  We are better
> with diversity.
>

Well said!

        - Dan C.
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