[TUHS] MacOS X is Unix (tm)

Tim Bradshaw tfb at tfeb.org
Sun Jan 1 23:56:33 AEST 2017


Yes, I know it's Mach: I really meant the userland and (to a smaller extent) the system calls.  Given my aim of a desktop machine on which to live that's actually all I care about: if I have to worry about the guts of the kernel then the system has failed to provide what I need from it.

> On 1 Jan 2017, at 13:01, Ron Natalie <ron at ronnatalie.com> wrote:
> 
> OS/X (Mac) is Mach-derived   I think you do it a disservice to call it BSD-derived.    While the kernel-to-application interface was compatible with 4.2 BSD, the kernel is largely of CMU’s only creation.
> The thing came layered with Doug Gwyn’s (where is he? I invited him) BRL SV on BSD user environment to silence the critics that it wasn’t SVID compatible.    I hadn’t even realized it until I got a few Mach kerneled machines (notably our NeXT cube) and found that it had my version of the Bourne shell with job control and command line editing hacked in (to battle the tcsh guys at BRL because I detested the csh syntax and Korn’s shell hadn’t gotten out of the labs yet at that point).
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